ishy: but there’s definitely a belief among parents that Christian university will continue to shelter their kids. I have some experience with mental health treatment as a patient and the way the former CU student was treated viscerally affected me. I have a burden for a genuine revival among God’s people and spiritual awakening in the nation, and pray daily for that. While these people contributed to the “color/culture” of the area, to this day the image of these people still bothers me…. Rather, it is a predicted collision. I would go step further, I wonder how a hard core 5 Marks church would view Mark Driscoll’s new church, or McArthur’s church, etc? And if you can find it, the out-of-print book ‘Six Thousand Years of Bread’ will reveal more than you can imagine about the parable of the leaven, and illumine from a different angle the Bread of Life who related that parable. Anyone and everyone can establish their own version of a Hall of Fame at any time. I have an overnight yeast bread rising in the refrigerator. They all read the same playbook. I spent three days there this time and when I got back to campus I was again called into Dean Stowers office to sign this NDA. I also learned about local resources I could turn to. I would eat flatbreads in a vain attempt to counteract the dastardly combo of woman and yeast. Some are better than others. The blog owner was taking accountability for the comments section. as what these secret purposes were, 1) perhaps racial integration (or the appearance of such)? I remember one girl told me that her brother, who was only a couple years older, was required to “babysit” her, but basically could do whatever he wanted because he was male. 2. This is a profoundly negitive parabel that turns towards the subject of a secound death in the afterlife. Glad to help with the thinking. What also needs to be said here is that Kat obviously spoke out as Sweeney’s sexual harassment was building. It seems to me that if the only thing that went wrong in the AM case is that he was hired at all(and the deception surrounding that), then quite of bit of what TW said in that statement would not need to have been said. Ishy’s stories are very consistent with this subculture. “Reason” can mean cause or purpose in the context of your earlier comment; I wanted to understand your thinking. 251 N. Main St. • Cedarville, OH 45314 USA • 1-800-CEDARVILLE (233-2784) • 1-937-766-7700 for the Word of God and the Testimony of Jesus Christ Instagram I will withhold judgment on whether Dr. White’s claim of “We as a university will be a university that cares well for victims. It’s just cynical posturing for legal advantage. They need to know that they also receive extensive rights that very same day. I’ve always wondered why Marc Sweeney left the University of Findlay for Cedarville University? Based on biography of the head of the family of centuries-old German-British Warburg banking dynasty by social economist Jacques Attali. Jack: sidebars into UFO’s, cryptozoology, off the trail theology, young earth creation, computers, UK football, science fiction and fantasy – even Brony’s have been mentioned, don’t forget the discussions about alternatives to toilet paper during shortages (i.e. I simply assumed plausibly that the fright of small members of the public is insufficiently comparable to the arrogant oppression exerted by the Cedarville faculty described (the power equation being exactly opposite). where she remarks that 1Bam and posts like yours makes her feel uncomfortable. That’s the opposite of how the law is supposed to work to protect women like her. And as I said in my previous three comments (actually one broken up into three), the transition happens at midnight on your 18th birthday. As time went on, Dr Sweeney avoided contact with Kat. But is the Kingdom visualized in a frame of reference? Think he’ll have the “I’m Not saying it’s an Angel Encounter, BUT…” Word of Prophecy to comeback from some random guy at a gas station in backwoods Wyoming? Either White is VERY smart, in a deceptive way, or he is getting coached on how to talk about the “Moore situation”… I am open to another alternative.. Jeffrey Chalmers: Either White is VERY smart, in a deceptive way, or he is getting coached on how to talk about the “Moore situation”… I am open to another alternative.. Jeffrey, I don’t feel that it is ok to dismiss a group of people sharing their hearts just because you are friends with a person or whatever. It has them, because it’s part of the whole. This worries me that my wife was not the first woman and may not be the last. I hold to the tenets of The Apostle’s Creed as non-negotiables up front and on the table. Friend: What is your solution, then? Which authorities? “We’re so bad, we’ve gotta be good.” “We’re so good, we’ve gotta be bad.”. Good advice, Dee. The fact that all this happened along with the attempted cover-up of the child molester at dee’s former church and the other child molester being arrested not long after, makes me so angry. Students’ happiness is not really mentioned except as a byproduct of the Evangelical immersion plan. It’s a weird variation of the Streisand Effect. SNAKE: NOW he tells me! Sarah: Can your “trusted friend” provide that email? My dad had given me the old family minivan, so every time I went anywhere, there were sometimes 10 people wanting to come, just so they could leave the school. Max: “How did Thomas White end up as CU President in the first place?”. Just read the analysis of President’s White’ “apology”. White should have practiced a bit more. Unfortunately, their followers are so gullible that they buy the counterfeit thinking it is genuine. Ah yes, but he’d be nowhere without that coach-like aura. Of course, that dynamic does not stop there; it continues into bad choices and bad outcomes. I am a reader and sometime participant in The Wartburg Watch because this site examines and disseminates information on important theological and congregational topics. Did Sweeney or the administration tell Kat’s co-workers what happened?” Don’t assume I knew my grandparents or great grandparents just because nowadays so many people do. The Wartburg Watch 2020 ... 12.26.2020: EChurch@Wartburg: Wade Burleson: Advent and Hope — 2 Comments drstevej on Sat Dec 26, 2020 at 03:07 PM said: 1 (Reply & quote selected text) (Reply to this comment) Michael in UK on Sun Dec 27, 2020 at 04:14 AM said: Leadership flows top down, it would grieve me to know that these things were occurring on my campus under my leadership, that students were being hurt, losing their faith and leaving as broken individuals. Oh brother, an unaccredited correspondence school? Minnesota 52, Ohio St. 50. The school even checked in with me to see if I needed any help in dealing with what I witnessed. I got a couple marriage proposals at LU from guys who had barely spoken to me beforehand. Looks like LU is hesitating to release covid numbers. Max, that sounds like the SBC College I went to, in the 70’s. Some stayed in the church initially and only later (10-15 years) left the church. It repudiates mainstream psychology and psychiatry as humanistic, fundamentally opposed to Christianity, and radically secular. In a report published at the Wartburg Watch, the group alleged that as the academic vice president, Reno enacted the Biblically Consistent Curriculum policy, despite strong objections from faculty. I do believe that the memo exists, I was just hoping that someone had access to it. I hope you never have to get a phone call hearing your daughter sobbing so bad you can’t understand her. Nathan Priddis: Remember, the Woman hid the leaven and all became leavened. Friend: like everybody within the sound of his voice may or may not make the 53-man roster cut. I’m very, very sorry to hear Kat’s story but thank you, Kat, for sharing this. I troubled to analyse rationale in the context Dee mentioned. During the debate tournament, Mindy May called and spoke with me. I suppose some Christian colleges are better than others, with more godly leadership than CU or LU, where students are nurtured in the faith while receiving a college education … rather than waiting for the next scandal to break. With Sam Waterston, Jean-Pierre Cassel, Julian Glover, Paul Herzberg. It’s not part of the OP. He said he would do: As Kat’s husband I stand behind the decision for a formal process for the actions of Marc against my wife. There doesn’t seem to be anyone in that sort of position at Cedarville (to begin with because it is a religious school it has the legal right to fire even tenured professors for “religious” reasons and has done so). When you make the decision that someone needs a crisis evaluation, you have them taken to the hospital via ambulance or police. The perpetrators on the campus have no constraints on their fearless oppression of women but their diseased egos, so not much comparison between such perpetrators and the fearful ordinary folks demonstrating, to my mind. Dismissive is dismissive, not a great thing for anyone who receives earnest concerns from other earnest readers. ICommenting on moderation is not allowed. Even when these institutions fall apart in a grand explosion, 8-16 months later, they are trying to make a new one… So my guess is not…. Third, we have questions about Sweeney’s “punishment.” How long did Sweeney’s “administrative leave” last? Combine this with the “spontaneity” and lack of deliberation / reason / thought / consideration / logic / principle because those things “quench” THEIR “holy” spirit !!!!! Thank you for reading. The absence of empathy and understanding are sufficient.”, © 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 - The Wartburg Watch. all with a stake . I just thought of another thing. I’m sorry … I know we aren’t to judge by the outward appearance … but Dr. White just has “the look” … maybe it’s all the grease he puts on his hair. There aren’t many places a person who is Christian-ish can openly discuss faith or the lack thereof. I think purity culture creates the kinds of monsters it proposes to stop. I ultimately started questioning Christianity while I was there and within a year of leaving the school, I completely walked away from religion. So that, at least, is not unique to Christian colleges. Equally important, the law is quite clear about what does and doesn’t constitute sexual harassment. Kat decided it was time to leave and fortunately found a good position in marketing. I did not live on campus (housing was very limited), but even my on-campus friends didn’t seem to do much outside of work, study, and sleep. Membership Covenants (to help with SBC’s pro-slavery past that will always haunt them). haha. I received in an email after the meeting which are (pulled directly from his email to me). It doesn’t make people any more pure than they are and instead attempts to hide all bad things behind a screen as if they didn’t exist when they do. I personally don’t care if calling “first” is okay or not. If not, this is all hearsay. Jeffrey Chalmers: But fewer butts in the pews means less dollars and “bragging” rights/political power for preachers and denominations.. The Nones don’t attend church because they don’t believe in Jesus for the most part … the Dones have dropped out of organized church because they can’t find Jesus there (just teachings and traditions of men and religious people). If it comes from a CHRISTIAN cow; I also think they just really don’t care about the mental health of students. On a lighter note, James White (a different one, I’m sure) has always been high on my list of sci-fi writers with his Sector General stories. Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: I suspect that the shortage of candidates is self-inflicted. Especially when you factor in American drinking age, where up until 21 it’s Strictly Forbidden and the instant you turn 21 there’s NO restriction whatsoever. There are lots of people I don’t look forward to meeting. Personal. Kat was brave in coming forward, however, so whether Sweeney will repeat his immoral actions again remains to be seen. This is supposedly a “Christian” college. Anderson said the school is still in the process of developing the dashboard, which will provide updates to the public “on a regular basis” with real-time data. Given the multiple reports of prolonged waits for counseling, it would appear that the CU counseling department is seriously understaffed. Todd Wilhelm: This way when the memo is published there will be a manageable amount of individuals to interogate to determine who the leaker is and then take the appropriate action against the individual. Molly245: “He’s a really nice guy”, “it’s just how we do things around here”, He didn’t mean anything by it”, “You are being too sensitive”,”You just don’t understand how it works around here”. The White family left and started attending Grace Baptist Church in Cedarville about the time that Anthony Moore was hired at CU. Cedarville University has a mandatory chapel service Monday-Friday at 10:00 A.M. Just remember this when it comes to thinking. I would ask the readers to review Julie Roys posts on counseling received at Cedarville University and judge for yourself whether their stories are credible, or if you think they are liars. Friend: It’s a weird variation of the Streisand Effect. Friend: At age 18, people in the US become responsible under the law for their actions. This is seriously going to limit the number of people who will want to work for CU. It wasn’t to class and not to upset anyone. Glad to see you and some other familiar commenters still here. The dad flatly refused. I dont have any of my own but it must be a terrible feeling as a father not to be able to prevent it. Thank you. I mainly stay home, and fortunately our household gets along. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. (See below) I cannot put into words how hurt I was by this. Where evangelical institutions handicap themselves is the requirement to subscribe to a statement of beliefs – not just any statement, either. 1. It’s tough to watch that video of Thomas White, but I must admit, it’s an Oscar-worthy job of acting. “Christian” aka #ChurchINC apparently has moral & institutional human relations standards that are far below secular law. I received an email from HR denying (by denying (the formal hearing). Friend: There’s an apology for something, and a promise to do better, and then he takes a knee and shuts his eyes. This time I tried to fight it. the pillsbury doughboy. “I went to Cedarville fall semester 2013, my first semester was Dr. White’s first semester. It should have been dealt with, he should have been reprimanded and told to stop. They post things that are off topic. The Universe cannot have two Centers.). For those people who were in a faith struggle at the time of the research, poll, or whatever, was there some way to indicate their current struggle? Or maybe there were other reasons that made it a good time (for him) for Sweeney to leave? I signed it under coercion. Over the summer I had accepted the fact that I am not heterosexual. Aside, Max: The former staff member has said, “I have no idea what they told her and I don’t want to know.” The pain is so great that these families have no energy or emotional strength to investigate what went wrong in CU’s counseling center. They are hurting. As for “cap”, CU probably also doesn’t pay the market rate. I do think that colleges are in a good position to find some solutions that work—as long as their decisions are not contorted by finances, ideological pressure, etc. She resigned about 7 months after the process began. My guess it that his impact was either providing money or favorable publicity to the person/group responsible to the hall of fame he was in. The assault took place after the student matriculated. I have to say, James White has been on my “suspect” list for a long time, merely guilt by association up until recently, but his churlishness on Twitter and this report have moved his name from “suspect” to “confirmed”. Bail. Even though I utilized my support system I felt guilty doing so, like I was wrong for doing so and too much for anyone to handle. ishy: I know it’s an old tradition here, but I’ve never been comfortable with it, either, particularly on some of these more serious discussions. Max: I suspect Moore will launch another comeback someday after all this blows over. a girl would be suspended, and potentially expelled for that.. Headless Unicorn Guy, That is a human male response to guilt. Muff Potter: With all the bad press they’re (Cedarville and other fundagelical colleges) getting, I wonder if it’s occurred to them that they either change or go extinct. She seemed totally shocked to find out there was no way they could decide that for her. Equally important, the law is quite clear about what does and doesn’t constitute sexual harassment. This begs the question… what was Tom White’s historic and iconic impact on the martial arts community? The outward appearance is highly calculated, eh? Don’t assume my life has been trauma free, you might be quite wrong. (This goes back to your mom’s story, & through your insights, enlightenment. Then you start to have a college that is truly Christian. This future dispute is contained in both the parable of the laborers, and the Revelation. But let me be clear: Nouthetic counseling can do NOTHING for serious mental illness. Can your “trusted friend” provide that email? The ruler of the synagogue is an adversary of Jesus. I was struggling with severe PTSD, having nightmares and flashbacks every day and did not have a professional to help me. Max: My thoughts as well when various reports started coming out on Moore. justicecollective: Dr. Thomas White helped Paige Patterson cover up Megan Lively’s rape in 2003 at SEBTS. And neither is Mindy May. The meal is altered, making it more desirable for consuming, but worthless for offerings to God. Class of 2019 by cedarville university 2023 2020 spirit week facebook heritage christian school Class of 2019 by Cedarville University Source: digitalcommons.cedarville.edu See the pattern here? It can only be seen as a doctrinal construct. Also, NO respectable institution will go around and make such absolute statements… nothing is never “perfect”, especially when dealing with the human mind….. Let us repeat: Suicides have happened. Period. From what I have read, in the oppressive Soviet system, jokes, with allegorical meanings, where used all the time for people to say yhings that could not be said, and “blow off steam”…. A 20-something is going to do what s/he is going to do. “Let me tell you all about this thing you’re not supposed to know! https://julieroys.com/rape-victim-whose-story-ousted-paige-patterson-says-cedarville-pres-thomas-white-was-part-of-cover-up/, It’s like there is a pattern or something…. It follows the parable of the mustard seed, which is also favorable. Living with integrity? The are allegorical. Sometimes God sets His face against those who claim to follow Him. Cedarville University The Wartburg Watch community extends its sympathies to female professors who have been mistreated, solely due to their gender, at Christian colleges, universities and seminaries. They can make their own medical decisions. What was it about this procedure that it appears to have been avoided at all costs? 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